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Typing Monkeys Fail to Produce Works of Shakespeare
LONDON (AP) - Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, the theory goes, and they will eventually produce the prose the likes of Shakespeare.
Give six monkeys one computer for a month, and they will make a mess.
Researchers at Plymouth University in England reported this week that primates left alone with a computer attacked the machine and failed to produce a single word.
"They pressed a lot of S's," researcher Mike Phillips said Friday. "Obviously, English isn't their first language."
A group of faculty and students in the university's media program left a computer in the monkey enclosure at Paignton Zoo in southwest England, home to six Sulawesi crested macaques. Then, they waited.
At first, said Phillips, "the lead male got a stone and started bashing the hell out of it.
Eventually, monkeys Elmo, Gum, Heather, Holly, Mistletoe and Rowan produced five pages of text, composed primarily of the letter S. Later, the letters A, J, L and M crept in.
"Another thing they were interested in was in defecating and urinating all over the keyboard," added Phillips, who runs the university's Institute of Digital Arts and Technologies.
lol...it worked
"Another thing they were interested in was in defecating and urinating all over the keyboard,"
Well, that's not too far removed from a lot of blog commenting.....Maybe they're getting there.
Jackpot!
Yay! I said something YOU consider intelligent? Wow, thanks! :)
My thought, on this after reading the whole article linked by OillsMastery & considering this statement:
Phillips said the experiment showed that monkeys "are not random generators. They're more complex than that.
"They were quite interested in the screen, and they saw that when they typed a letter, something happened. There was a level of intention there."
I thought... 6 complex lab monkeys & only 1 month. Hmmmm? How do you compare that to an infinite number of monkeys & an infinite number of typewriters? What is the time frame for all those infinite monkeys, anyway? & how do you factor in infinite evolution or at the very least an infinite amount of experience? It seems to me the monkeys are doing darn good for only being at the computer for 1 mth.
Quiff, pee in a mud puddle, then come back in around 20,000,000,000,000 years or so... you should have a functioning woman or blow-up version by that time, I'm thinkin'.
I mean... it happened once already... didn't it?
Maybe you should grow up and stop talking like a potty mouth 3 year old Gideon. Your blatant immaturity is plenty testament that you have nothing intelligent to say. Also, I don't want to join your stupid cult that has absolutely no intellectual content in it, you're wasting your time by insulting people who disagree with your whacky beliefs about Jesus raising zombies from their graves at some unkown time in the future.
A friend of mine sent me this link to a interview with the author of "The Evolution of God" here. I thought you might find it interesting.
One hope the evolutionist & the secular humanist has that the Christian does not... We believe even Christians can "evolve" into higher consciousness.
I try to consider this when confronted with religious close-mindedness.
Rita, good article. I agree that religion changes to suit it's own purposes, it is a socio-centric entity that fights for dominance or cooperates for survival whenever it fits the particular situation. It is also a very superstitious group entity. I think this can be expanded to include most groups for that matter. Really, the ones that adapt tend to survive and the ones that remain constant tend to get wiped out.
However, religion is intrinsically immoral since it forces it's followers to anchor their beliefs on historical authority figures even long after they've been shown absurd.
"Maybe you should grow up and stop talking like a potty mouth 3 year old Gideon."
Of course, your grossly-exaggerated 'sensibilities' completely miss (as usual) the irony and logic of my statement. Quiff... what am I to do with you? Jesus isn't a zombie, and He doesn't raise them like you raise gerbils for, shall we say, 'internal' applications?
He raises new creations... actually, re-creations of those who desire life eternal. Those, like yourself, that see death as a better alternative than immortality, will have their wish as well. I see that as a waste, but, who am I? Maybe I'm missing out on the big picture, here. Hell, in 50 million years, I'll likely be bored out of my skull exploring the universe, and you'll... be dead, of course.
I'll probably have acquired more knowledge than the greatest supercomputer, here, by that time. Of course, that pales in comparison to what you'll have... nothing, 'cause you'll still be dead. Man, I envy you! LOL!
Seriously, Quiff... your 'reality' blows. I think I prefer my delusion, thank you. Even if I am wrong, I won't have to listen to your I-told-you-so's. I don't really relish seeing you torched into extinction, though. Think you might reconsider, and save me having to watch you and your infidel buddies light up the planet with your burning torsos?
It is said that there will be a great banquet table in Heaven, but, it might be tough getting that food down while entertaining visions of your fat sizzling and popping in a global inferno! And the smell... ever watched anyone burn to death, Quiff? I have... not fun, son.
Rita, does that closed-mindedness include your religion, sweetie?
Your religion changes to suit it's purposes, too, Quiff. Your bum-buddy Dawkins is always 'modifying' his position on EVILution.
You never did comment on his lies to Ben Stein, did you? I wouldn't, either. Kind of embarrassing seeing that lunatic go on like he did. You can see it in his eyes... you know... the craziness? He's a complete basket case. I'll bet Chris Hitchens is banging him silly on the side... and, in the missionary position, sixty-nining him, doggy... you name it!
I'll give the boy credit for having lasted so long... I'd be drooling all over my 'I-love-myself' jacket in some asylum, by now, if I had to keep up a debauch lifestyle like that one!
"However, religion is intrinsically immoral since it forces it's followers to anchor their beliefs on historical authority figures even long after they've been shown absurd."
You're just using them big words to try and get into Rita's panties, right Quiff? I mean, you never use them around the boys or me!
I had to look twice to make sure that was the same ol'Quiff we all know and love! LOL!
C'mon... fess up... you cut and pasted them from somewhere off the Internet, right?
LOL!
;-)
Quiff? Quiiiiiifffy? You there?
LOL!
Gideon seems obsessed enough with anal-centered practices that I think it's pretty clear what's really going on there. The burning and sadism kinks are more worrying. Don't let him near any kittens.
Infidel 753:
Quiffy's not in, at the moment, so I'm kinda looking after things, here. Just take a seat next to the other perverts over there, and remember: one gerbil per customer, and wipe them off when you're done.
So, you're a transformer, eh? What do you turn into? An espresso machine? An American parrot, too... can you say; "Quiffy wants a blowjob?" Quite a bio you've got... all that, and an average guy, too!
Kind of a contradiction of terms, wouldn't you say?
Some of my Christian acquaintances might put Gideon in the "zealous young (he's obviously young) warrior for Christ" category.
Some of them might even put him in the "not really a true Christian" category. Because, unlike their Jesus he exhibits so little regard for mankind.
Personally, I'd put him in the "what an asshole" category.
BTW, can you imagine a whole heaven full of people like that, forever & ever...?
*shudder* :)
Awww, Rita... you're such a credit to your gender and your species... that's what you enlightened humanists call our race, right? Such an asset... and this evil 'young' Gideon so hateful and unconcerned for his fellow ape-spawn.
Why SHOULD I care, Rita? What law says that I have to give a shit about you or anyone else? Some bureaucratic dictate? Some legislative act? Under your scenario, I'll live maybe 85 years on average, then I'll kick and become dust. In a few years, no one will ever know I was alive!
Tell me why I shouldn't live for myself, and trod over whoever gets in the way of me achieving the most that I can in the generous allotment you infidels give us all for life?
Why shouldn't I just bust into your home, take whatever I please, and, have my way with you, as well? What... 'cause the law of the land would say I was a BAD person if I did? LOL!
Know something? If I were accountable to a God Who cared for you, I'd be much more inclined to walk the straight and narrow sweetie. Not just for what He could do to me at the judgment, but, because His Spirit resides in me, telling me and showing me it's wrong to do those things. In essence, it's Him living THROUGH me, and not me, at all.
You infidels don't think TOO hard, do you? You think it's all about the survival of the species... that we all have to, as John Evo says, is "work toward a better society." Listen up... and listen REAL good, honey... if ALL I have to look forward to is a hole in the ground FOR ETERNITY, then I'm damned well gonna live the way I want, DO whoever I want, and be whatever I want, and TAKE whatever I want while I'm still breathing and strong enough in my youthful vigor! Your pathetic attempt at laying a guilt-trip on me doesn't even reach mile marker one!
Now... if that's clear, I'll tell you another thing... I believe in humanity, but, I'm no door mat, and neither is God. (Christ) He'll destroy all who oppose and hate Him... THAT is biblical truth, whatever you infidels think of scripture, good or bad. I spent a good deal of time trying to reason with you guys, and have only been laughed at, so FUCK YOU and your pretended sensibilities for society, lady!
Cry me a river, now, because the bad ol' Gideon told you straight. By the same token, I'll walk ten miles with you if you want or need my company.
That's as complicated as it gets.
Gideon, reactions are directly related to actions, and each individual reacts to your bullshit in different ways depending on the summation of their previous experiences, their current mindset, and their biological predispositions. I can tolerate your bullshit, but not necessarily everybody will. Maybe you think you're untouchable, maybe you can even talk to your boss or coworkers that way, but you still are putting yourself at risk of the reactions of other people. You may very well fuck with the wrong person some time down the line and end up knocked out or fired or in jail.
That's probably the most sensible thing you've said in a long while, Quiff, and you'll do well to apply that to yourself! In case you haven't noticed, your acid tongue has waggled a time or two, as well.
You let me worry about how I'm perceived, and show me the respect you demand from me, and you'll get it back. But, as I told our lady friend, I don't hold with the notion that Christians are supposed to be whipping posts like maybe CL or others think. I wasn't always a Christian, either, so don't think I don't know how to look after myself, son!
It's up to you... we'll do it any way you want. Of course, you have the power to banish me from here, but, that's something that isn't done in my neck of the woods.
Why not grow a spine and try me out at my word? See if you're disappointed or no.
Here's a gesture of my good faith... you were right, "Quiff" is a derogatory term. I will address you properly from now on.
Fair enough, QF?
Tit for tat, but sure fair enough, those terms are acceptable Gideon.
Gideon Your avatar is quite fitting, you know. It's so middle ages like your mindset. But hey, that probably comes from believing every thing in a book that was written a couple of thousand years ago.
Christians are not exclusively assholes & assholes are not exclusively Christian.
But, when arrogant Christians think they somehow hold the monopoly on truth & morality, that makes them assholes in my book.
Mr. Gideon, I don't care where you think you are going to go when you die & what you think of humanists & all your foaming at the mouth blah, blah, blah.
What I do care about are people like you trying to impose YOUR own disdain of humanity & feelings of inadequacy on the rest of us.
I know you were being sarcastic, but, I do hope I am a credit to my species & my gender. IMO, that is what life is about... contributing to the collective consciousness of humankind as we move forward, "evolve" if you will, conquering the universe on our own merits.
I stand by my hypothesis that Gideon is a repressed homosexual, simply because he seems to obsessed with the suubject; but actually it looks like the crux of his problem is something like Tourette's Syndrome. The whole religion schtick may well be secondary to that -- as a way of allowing himself to feel justified when using vulgar and abusive language.
Rita, you're the one that believes we came from monkeys... and I am Medieval-minded one?
You know, I don't know where people get the idea that I'm imposing ANYTHING on ANYONE! Am I any less dogmatic than say Richard Dawkins, when he calls Christians deluded fools for believing in a deity? How is it that he can get away with statements like that, and I'm imposing my beliefs on you? Can I make you do something that you don't want to do? Conversely, do you follow the humanist curriculum in any public school system, if you expect to graduate? You're damned right you do!
Rita, who the fuck was it that IMPOSED their will upon me in my school days... was it Christ? Was it any Christian? No... it was a damned humanist-run system that you worship, sister! I toed the line or I failed... simple as that. The dogma then, was, as it is now, that God was/is a fantasy, and apes were/are my ancestors. How far do you think I'd get today if I answered my term papers with the nod toward God as creator?
Now... who in the blue-balls blazes is imposing who's will on who? And, you telling me I'm an idiot for thinking like I do... what is that, sweetheart?
You know zilch about me, and whether or not I despise anyone, okay? Let's stay in real-time, here. And, yes, I was being sarcastic, because, I wouldn't dream of doing those things that some really feel no shame doing. I'm just telling you why they do what they do, and your blessed system is a contributor to that mindset.
I AM trying to contribute to the ultimate good of mankind. You see that good as a result of man's works. I see it as something only God can do. Take a look around you... do you see man ever reaching perfection on his own? Is the world getting any better? I see our survival as something only God can enable.
If you don't like what I say, then ignore it. But, you coming on here and challenging me, and expecting me to just roll over and say; "Yes, my mistress, thy will be done", and you're sadly mistaken!
I read a post that QF or the Chief or John Evo does, and I present the alternate view. I get criticized for it, and fully expect it. What I'm not expecting is moralizing from people that do not have any legitimate reason to be moralizing at all, given their belief system. You telling me I'm an evil person, is tantamount to the pot calling the kettle black. What reference point enables you, a firm believer in Godless Evolution, any special insight or authority to tell me I'm bad or good? I make my judgments according to the law of God Almighty, Who created the law. You reject Him, therefore, you reject His law, making yourself a law unto yourself. Lawlessness is the inevitable result, and where there's no law, there's no crime.
Some of the most arrogant, judgmental people I know are non-believers, who just go apeshit whenever some Christian criticizes their behavior. "How DARE you judge me!", they squeal, and yet they are the first ones to criticize Christians on their beliefs, and call them fools!
I don't subscribe to the laying-on of guilt trips, so save it. Have a nice day.
Infidel 753...
LMFAO
Dream on, sucker!
Gideon, why didn't you choose to study electronics, mechanics, chemistry, and math instead of biology, geology, and astronomy like most biblical literalists do?
QF:
Because, like you, I found Penthouse, Playboy, and Cracked to be far more intellectually stimulating!
;-)
Clearly there is a time and a place for both of those. Gideon, legend has it that King Solomon had 1000 concubines, and he's actually the smartest dope in the entire Bible.
Gideon Come on, you know you acted like a jerk, so quit w/the martyr act.
*Sheesh* You christians & your persecution complexes. It seems like you all want to be hung on a cross like your hero, Jesus.
When you talk about public school I think you are confusing the idea of separation of church & State with secular humanism. For one thing, where I live there are not many if any secular humanists or atheists that #1 teach School or #2 are a part of administration or the School board. As it is there is an overwhelming majority of orthodox Mormans in our school district. Separation of Church & State is the wall that protects democracy from the unhealthy influence of religion. Of course you know all of this & I'd bet you can see the logic of it. We all know what countries that have no speration of Church & State are like. Don't confuse the two terms.
It is not Christianity that
So I'm generalizing... lumping all you fundamentalist christians together. But, there are certain beliefs that one must adhere to to be a Christian, right? Beliefs, that set you apart from the world.
You do believe that human beings are born with what is called original sin, right? & with out somehow getting rid of that original sin those people are doomed to hell, forever, right?
I'll try to answer your questions, that is only fair...
#1. Rita, you're the one that believes we came from monkeys... and I am Medieval-minded one?
Yes.
#2. Am I any less dogmatic than say Richard Dawkins, when he calls Christians deluded fools for believing in a deity? No.
#3. Can I make you do something that you don't want to do? No.
#4. Conversely, do you follow the humanist curriculum in any public school system, if you expect to graduate? Humanist curriculm? I believe it is the scientific curriculum. (Cute, how you answer your own loaded question, though ;)
Oh never mind...I think this whole argument is pointless & I hate arguing just for the sake of arguing.
The fact is we are both human beings & I think we have much more in common then we'd ever acknowledge or can recognize at this point. If someone tells me they Are "trying to contribute to the ultimate good of mankind." Who am I to dispute that? Whether or not I think they are misguided, the idea is commendable.
Anyway, have a nice day & the law & common decency will keep the peace.
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